The all-new geography quiz

[toejam]

What is being written about here? QUOTE:-

" ******(1), ****** named after the undaunted & reticent Spaniard who ....... ..... first sailed .... without knowing where he was .... .... ....etc etc whose existence...... had been doubted by geographers .....and even denied by the disreputable but skilful **** ******(2), and .... .... ...etc first laid down on the map by ***** ****(3) the navigator without fear and without reproach ..."


1.Name the place.
2.Double Airmiles and Aeroplan points for each name under 1, 2, & 3 (the asterixes are correct for the number of letters in each name, #1 has no first name in this instance, the second lot of asterixes belong to the geographic feature being written about)
3.Tenfold points if you tell me who wrote this.

[Sean Clayden]

1/ Torres Straits (Australia)

2/ The fierce southeaster caught me up on its wings, and no later than the ninth day I was outside the entrance of Torres Strait, named after the undaunted and reticent Spaniard who in the seventeenth century first sailed that way without knowing where he was; without suspecting he had New Guinea on one side of him and the whole solid Australian Continent on the other (he thought he was passing through an archipelago), the strait whose existence for a century and a half had been doubted, argued, squabbled about by geographers, and even denied by the disreputable but skillful navigator Abel Tasman (who thought it was a large bay), and whose true contours were first laid down on the map by James Cook, the navigator without fear and without reproach, the greatest in achievement and character of the later seamen fathers of militant geography.

3/ Joseph Conrad

[toejam]

Yes indeed
Collect your points from your nearest Airmiles pusher
Your turn
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btw did you get that from his "Last Essays" or from Jerry Allen's "The Sea Years"?

[Sean Clayden]

Where is the deepest proposed man made mine. Hint, gold is a clue ?

[Sean Clayden]

btw did you get that from his "Last Essays" or from Jerry Allen's "The Sea Years"?[/QUOTE]

Geography and some explorers quotations and facts.:lol:

[toejam]

Where is the deepest proposed man made mine. Hint, gold is a clue ?

On the Witwatersrand in South Africa?

[Sean Clayden]

On the Witwatersrand in South Africa?

Partially correct, what specific region and name of mine ?

[toejam]

Western Deep Levels mine 3581 metres deep is a gold mine

East Rand mine is 3585 metres but don't know if it's a gold mine, I think it is.

[Sean Clayden]

The deepest existing mine is Savuka (South Africa) which reaches down 3,777 metres.

I asked where is the deepest "proposed" mine ? Which is going to be about 3,900 metres deep.

[toejam]

The deepest existing mine is Savuka (South Africa) which reaches down 3,777 metres.

I asked where is the deepest "proposed" mine ? Which is going to be about 3,900 metres deep.

It's AngloGold's Ashanti TauTona mine going to 3902 metres. Virgin rock temps will be higher tnan the present record of 55C. The name suggests Ghana, but likely it's on the Rand too.

[Sean Clayden]

It's AngloGold's Ashanti TauTona mine going to 3902 metres. Virgin rock temps will be higher tnan the present record of 55C. The name suggests Ghana, but likely it's on the Rand too.

Correct.

Your go

[toejam]

The only genuinely Gothic building in Africa (ie NOT Gothic Revival etc)

What is its name?

Where is it?

[Sean Clayden]

St Pauls

Durban

[toejam]

No. There was no Durban when this was built, no Natal, ?? No Cape of Good Hope -- so named, but I will check on that last fact.

[ggremlin]

Melilla's Capilla de Santiago or James's Chapel in Melilla, spanish enclave on the north coast of Africa?

[toejam]

Melilla's Capilla de Santiago or James's Chapel in Melilla, spanish enclave on the north coast of Africa?

Of course! It's the only one!

Your turn to ask a question.

[toejam]

i sent ggremlin a pm today to remind him to revisit here

[ggremlin]

Sorry, I've been busy winter fighting.

When was the most northern land engagement of the US Civil War fought?

[toejam]

Gettysburg
The third day: July 3rd 1863
Pickett's Charge __ "The High Tide of the Confederacy"

[ggremlin]

Good try, but nope.

[toejam]

Carlisle Pa ?
1st July 1863

[KaiYeves]

Wasn't there a battle in the Bering Straits?

[ggremlin]

Toejam, Further north then Carlisle, Pa.

KaiYeves, very interesting I did not know that, but I stated a land engagement.

[toejam]

Are you counting the New York Draft Riots in July 1863 as a battle?

If not, then the battle of Salineville Ohio, 26 July 1863, resulting in the capture of Confederate general John Morgan

[ggremlin]

Not, the draft riots and this was not in Ohio.

This was an attack by Confederate forces on the Union, but not where you would normally think.

[hhEb09'1]

Not, the draft riots and this was not in Ohio.

This was an attack by Confederate forces on the Union, but not where you would normally think.Ah. Morgan's Raid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hunt_Morgan)

[ggremlin]

No, further north, attack took place in 1864.

[toejam]

No, further north, attack took place in 1864.

OK. Should have thought of it sooner!

The attack on St Albans Vermont ? October 1864

Some Canada-based Confederates attacked to rob banks.


from Wikipedia QUOTE:

"The most controversial incident was the St. Albans raid. Montreal had become home to a group of Confederates attempting to launch covert and intelligence operations from Canada against the North. In October 1864, they attacked St. Albans, Vermont and robbed banks. They fled and were pursued by Union forces over the Canadian border, creating a diplomatic incident. The Canadians then arrested the Confederate raiders, but the charges against them were dismissed"

[hhEb09'1]

The attack on St Albans Vermont ? October 1864

Some Canada-based Confederates attacked to rob banks.


from Wikipedia QUOTE:From the St. Albans Raid wiki page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Albans_Raid), I see that the raiders were led by one of Morgan's raiders who had escaped to Canada. I should've picked up on the wording in my other link, it was the "farthest north any uniformed Confederate troops penetrated during the war"

But I have another quibble
When was the most northern land engagement of the US Civil War fought?Would a bank robbery, even three simultaneous robberies, really count as an engagement? :)

[ggremlin]

That's one ToeJam, one of little examples of information when you have an inspired teacher for history. It didn't hurt that my father was a Civil War reenactor either.


"Would a bank robbery, even three simultaneous robberies, really count as an engagement? :)"

hhEb09'1, I took the quote straight from the horse's web page "Virtual Vermont History" (http://www.virtualvermont.com/history/staraid.html):surprised

ToeJam, your turn to hold the high ground.

[toejam]

Thank you. A quote to begin the quizz:-

"The line was to begin "near a yellow birch tree hooped with iron and marked "ST and JH, 1797," and extend to the highlands that formed the southern boundary of the ** ******** watershed. The commissioners were also to explore the different highlands between that line and the headwaters of the ***********"."


1 What's all this about? What were the commissioners trying to establish?
2 What Yellow Birch tree? ie exactly where, in the general region you mention in the answer to 1. was this darned tree?
3 What line?
4 Fill in the blanks (The number of stars is correct in each name)
5 What was the consequence?
6 What did the world say? (if either then or now it knew anything about it)

[toejam]

OK

Hint:

New Englanders & Maritimers may have a better chance at this.

Especially Maine-iacs and their Canuck neighbours.

[toejam]

OK Then how about especially Nova Scotians and Maine-iacs, but Massachussets-ians (is there such a word) and New Brunswickers should have heard of it.
C'mon guys & dolls it's your 18th & 19th century history & geography, practically yesterday. :)

[crosscountry]

what was the question?

[hhEb09'1]

The initials S.T. and J.H. stand for Samuel Titcomb and John Harris, if that helps.

[ggremlin]

Oh, your talking about the establishment of the northern border between the state of Massachusetts and the colony of Canada. I'm picturing the head scratching here :).

[toejam]

Right ggremlin.
Want to add more?
There were 6 questions. :)

[toejam]

what was the question?

6 questions, give or take a few, See above post 1281.

[toejam]

The initials S.T. and J.H. stand for Samuel Titcomb and John Harris, if that helps.

Thanks. I didn't know that, & don't know where exactly the yellow birch was. Was hoping somebody knew. :)

[toejam]

Oh, your talking about the establishment of the northern border between the state of Massachusetts and the colony of Canada. I'm picturing the head scratching here :).

OK yes. Two generations of diplomats scratched their heads over the question of the:-

Northwest Angle of Nova Scotia,

which nearly brought Britain and the USA to war again.

For a fuller, still confusing, story go to this link, scroll all the way down & then up for several paragraphs, unless you want the whole history of that region, then start at the top.

http://www.littletechshoppe.com/ns1625/nshist01.html#nwanglens



Oh & ggremlin -- your turn to quiz us.

[hhEb09'1]

Thanks. I didn't know that, & don't know where exactly the yellow birch was. Was hoping somebody knew. :)This document (http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/diplomacy/britain/jaycomm.htm) says it was at the source of the "Chiputnaticook or Chibnitcook, as the same may be variously spelt"

[Eroica]

This document (http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/diplomacy/britain/jaycomm.htm) says it was at the source of the "Chiputnaticook or Chibnitcook, as the same may be variously spelt"
So the asterisks represent St Lawrence and Chibnitcook?

[toejam]

So the asterisks represent St Lawrence and Chibnitcook?

St Lawrence and CONNECTICUT rivers

[Bessler007]

I didn't read the whole thread to see if this was asked but....

What country is north of Canada?

[toejam]

Like your question 007, but you have to have answered the previous question correctly before you can ask one on this thread.

[ggremlin]

Sorry, full weekend and didn't have time to do the research for the detailed questions, I thought someone would pickup the ball.

If you need a question, try this, in honor of the New Year, what country was founded at the turn of the 20th century?

[ciderman]

East Timor?
& Denmark with Greenland?

[ggremlin]

No, not East Timor
and yes I believe you correct about Denmark.

[ggremlin]

Looks like it's hint time.

Centuries have two turning points.

[Eroica]

Australia?

[ggremlin]

Correct sir, using the definition of a century as starting on Jan 1, 01, not 00.

Your turn.

[Eroica]

What is the connection between Ur, Cimmeria, Siberia and Columbia?

[toejam]

What is the connection between Ur, Cimmeria, Siberia and Columbia?

All are names of ancient Continents.


Columbia -- a Supercontinent

Ur -- variously considered as Supercontinent or Continent

Siberia -- a Continent

Cimmeria -- a Continent.



Of course, I cheated. Typed the 4 names together into Google & there's your answer. :) Does that count? See my Sig below :)

[Eroica]

:clap: Well, that didn't take too long!

[toejam]

:clap: Well, that didn't take too long!

But reviving this thread did. :)

OK. An easy geo-historical one.

How long has Russia been a European country?

[Sarawak]

The end of 1991, when it became independent of the Soviet Union?

[toejam]

The end of 1991, when it became independent of the Soviet Union?

No. Earlier.

[Sarawak]

I think you will agree the question is vague - who decides what is a European country?

But, since you do not like my first answer, I will try 988.

[toejam]

I think you will agree the question is vague - who decides what is a European country?

But, since you do not like my first answer, I will try 988.

A very famous Russian did, at a definite time, well a definite year that is down in history books..

[crosscountry]

After the downfall of Constantinople in 1453, Moscow claimed succession to the legacy of the Eastern Roman Empire.


But I suspect you're talking about Ivan IV in around 1550 or possibly Ivan III.

[crosscountry]

or



Ruling from 1682 to 1725, Peter defeated Sweden in the Great Northern War, forcing it to cede West Karelia and Ingria (two regions lost by Russia in the Time of Troubles[49]), Estland, and Livland, securing Russia's access to the sea and sea trade.[50] It was in Ingria that Peter founded a new capital, Saint Petersburg. Peter's reforms brought considerable Western European cultural influences to Russia.




both from Wikipedia.

[toejam]

Peter the Great is right. He oficially decreed that Russia is a European country, (in 1725, I think, but have lost the reference!!!)

Your turn cross-country.

[crosscountry]

ok, let me think of one.

[crosscountry]

In response to the recent geography knowledge thread, I thought this would be appropriate.

Here's the first one:

Which Canadian region shares a border with both Alberta and British Columbia?


I'm thinking of an event that is considered by many to be the start the fall of Communism in Europe. What event was it and where?

[EndeavorRX7]

Oldest U.S. city?

[toejam]

I'm thinking of an event that is considered by many to be the start the fall of Communism in Europe. What event was it and where?

1980 Poland.:-
Walesa jumping over the wall into the shipyard at Gdansk during a strike there, to lead the strikers. The place where he had lost his job as electrician "for illicit political activities". Led to establishment of Solidarnosc and the rest is history...

[crosscountry]

Solidarity was what I was looking for since I speak so little Polish. The event is the strike at the shipyard. So you're right, and September 1980 of course.


This was the first time a communist country had to deal with striking workers. It was illegal of course, but that shipyard was so important to both Poland and the then USSR that the governments were forced to give in.

A photo I took Dec 06 of the monument erected there to the fallen shipyard workers.
http://photos.crosscountryadventures.us/albums/Germany3/3/normal_DSC01242.jpg

G'Dansk is one of the most beautiful cities I've ever seen. Everyone should go there.

and Here are some photos (http://photos.crosscountryadventures.us/displayimage.php?album=81&pos=57) of that city.

[toejam]

Solidarity was what I was looking for since I speak so little Polish. The event is the strike at the shipyard. So you're right, and September 1980 of course.


This was the first time a communist country had to deal with striking workers. It was illegal of course, but that shipyard was so important to both Poland and the then USSR that the governments were forced to give in.

A photo I took Dec 06 of the monument erected there to the fallen shipyard workers.
http://photos.crosscountryadventures.us/albums/Germany3/3/normal_DSC01242.jpg

G'Dansk is one of the most beautiful cities I've ever seen. Everyone should go there.

and Here are some photos (http://photos.crosscountryadventures.us/displayimage.php?album=81&pos=57) of that city.

Yes. As the Polish Joke says:-

How many Polacks does it take to topple the great Soviet Union?
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Two. A Bishop from Krakow and an electrician from Gdansk.


The thing had been in the works seriously ever since John Paul II's inauguration. That's why the Soviets tried to have him killed.

Wonder if we're going to get censored as this is a VERBOTTEN "political" subject

[crosscountry]

1980 Poland.:-
Walesa jumping over the wall into the shipyard at Gdansk during a strike there, to lead the strikers. The place where he had lost his job as electrician "for illicit political activities". Led to establishment of Solidarnosc and the rest is history...


I'm going to ask another question if you don't.

[toejam]

I'm going to ask another question if you don't.

Thanks. Go ahead, you'll be doing me a favour actually.

[crosscountry]

where on earth is the highest gradient within one mile.

in other words, where is the places of greatest elevation change within one mile.

[hhEb09'1]

Some walls are a mile high, but you mean, lateral distance a mile, right?

[crosscountry]

that's what I mean. Clearly some big canyons have a nearly straight up gradient.


I'm trying to see if there is any one place over a lateral mile with greater elevation change.

[Sarawak]

I assume we are restricted to places that are not underwater.

[crosscountry]

that was kinda implied, but since the question asked "where on earth is the highest gradient within one mile." I'll take underwater too.

[ggremlin]

Are gradients greater than 90 degrees exempt?

[hhEb09'1]

Are gradients greater than 90 degrees exempt?You know of a place where the endpoints are about a minute apart,
and the gradient is greater than 90 degrees? A mile overhang?? I'd accept that answer. let's hear it :)

[crosscountry]

yea, bring it on.

[ggremlin]

Actually, I was thinking of a 90 degree cliff with a natural overhang, similar to the "Old Man in the Mountain" of New Hampshire below it collapsed a few years ago. But the highest I can find is a 1000 meters wall in Norway.

I would love to see an inverted mountain to, but I sure wouldn't want to climb it !:)

[crosscountry]

you know, the answer may be simple, like the grand canyon.


what is the highest rise in one lateral mile?

[Eroica]

Mount Thor on baffin Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Thor)?

[hhEb09'1]

Mount Thor on baffin Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Thor)?Wow, 105 degree slope over 4100 feet. Still, if you were to take points a mile away, that would not even be a 1:1 grade, maybe.

The wiki page for Cerro Chaltén (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerro_Chalten) (Fitzroy) says it has a prominence of 6401 feet. Angel Falls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_falls) drops 3200 feet. Wait, the "towering over 1800m (5,900 ft) above the valley" is probably a good candidate too. The North Face of the Eiger[/url)Matterhorn is pretty steep too.

I'd go with the Eiger.

[Sean Clayden]

The Mariana trench should come top (or bottom).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariana_Trench

[crosscountry]

I think someone mentioned that, but what is the greatest gradient over one lateral mile?

[hhEb09'1]

The Mariana trench should come top (or bottom).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariana_TrenchNotice the scale on that cross section there at the top of the article. Even in that diagram, the "trench" looks more like a valley, and the vertical is exaggerated by ten times. That's not much of a slope at all.

[Sarawak]

So do we know the answer then?

[hhEb09'1]

So do we know the answer then?None have been certified

[crosscountry]

I assume we are restricted to places that are not underwater.


hint, start thinking along these lines.

[hhEb09'1]

hint, start thinking along these lines.along underwater lines, or not along underwater lines? :)

[crosscountry]

looking back that was a bit unclear

I believe the answer to lie underwater.

[geonuc]

I wonder if it's Mt McKinley. It supposedly has the greatest vertical relief of any mountain, but maybe not within one mile of the summit.

[crosscountry]

I think there's an answer everyone can agree to once they see the evidence.




I'm going to open up the answers to generalities because the exact location is probably not documented.

[Sarawak]

I am wondering if it is somewhere in the Sierra mountains.

Edited - I did not notice the part about it being underwater before writing the above sentence. Maybe it is Tanganyika or Baikal.

[crosscountry]

nope. there are places above sea level that change more than that.

[Sarawak]

I tried to Google it, and found this page :(

[crosscountry]

hint:

http://www.1worldglobes.com/images/oceanfloorglobe.jpg

and generalities will be accepted.

[hhEb09'1]

hint:

::snip:: image

and generalities will be accepted.Looking at that image, the most striking feature is the continental slope falling away from the continental shelf. However, the vertical dimension is very exaggerated (except on the continental areas, where it appears flat). This wiki page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_shelf) says that the angle of the continental slope is between 1 and 10 degrees. The depth of the abyssal plains (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean), the "bottom" of the ocean, excluding trenches, is between 4 and 6 km.

Everest of course is 9 km high, so it would appear as a very high point in that image, if it were in view. Aconcagua, in Argentina/Chile, is 7 km, so the South American Andes should appear as a very narrow ridge running along the edge of that continent, a lot higher than the ocean is deep there.

PS: If that ball model of the earth were true scale, with no vertical exaggeration, it would be impossible (http://mentock.home.mindspring.com/ifaq.htm#IFAQ007) to tell it from a perfectly smooth sphere, by visual inspection.

[crosscountry]

all true.


probably a hint in the wrong direction.

[chrissy]

the PUERTO RICO TRENCH which is 800km long and a max depth of 8,605 mtrs (28,232ft) MILWAUKEE DEEP which is the deepest point in the ATLANTIC OCEAN

[ggremlin]

For some reason I'm thinking the Hudson Canyon.:confused:

[hhEb09'1]

This wiki page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_Canyon) says that the average slope of the undersea Hudson Canyon is 1.5 degrees.

[crosscountry]

that's what I saw, but it's the length of the canyon. We're looking for the sides.

[hhEb09'1]

It says "At this point the canyon is as much as 12 km (7.5 miles) wide (from east rim to west rim) and as much as 1,100 m (3,609 ft) deep from canyon rim to canyon floor across the continental slope." So, if it's in the middle approx., that'd be 1,100/6000, or 18.3%

The Grand Canyon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Canyon) "ranges in width from 4 to 18 miles (6.4 to 29 km) and attains a depth of more than a mile (1.6 km)," but I'm not sure how deep it is at that narrowest point. Still, using worst case, it's at least 1/9, or 11.1%, probably higher.

This page from the park service (http://www.fs.fed.us/hellscanyon/overview/index.shtml) shows a graphic that seems to indicate that Hells Canyon is about 10 miles wide, with a slope of maybe 5632/(5*5280) or so, about 21.3%, possibly higher--it looks like the west rim overlooks are closer than five miles to the river. I'll dig out some more topos.

I just thought of something. The Black Canyon of the Gunnison (http://www.nps.gov/blca/naturescience/dimension.htm) is extremely deep and narrow (so named because sun don't reach the bottom :) ), so narrow that it doesn't much qualify under the "at least a mile" restriction. But the canyon walls rise almost straight up from the river, so a mile down river would be a gradient over a mile. At Chasm View, the rim is 1820 ft above the river, so to a mile downriver that'd be a gradient of 1820/5280, or 35.5%.


PS: Half Dome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half_Dome) "rises more than 4,737 ft (1,444 m) above the valley floor." I'm pretty sure you can get a mile away from it, so that's 4737/5280, or 89.7%. That second photo sure makes it look like you could get within a mile of it, on the valley floor.

[crosscountry]

not bad. Half dome IIRC is actually the top of a mountain and not level with anything else.



I'm still imagining some place steep like a canyon but that leads up even higher once out of the canyon.

[chrissy]

KAIBAB PLATEAU in northern Arizona its elevation of 9,241ft, (2,817m) above sea level.
or POINT IMPERIAL at 8803' it overlooks the desert of the east of the grand canyon the highest point of the grand canyon is 6600' above the Colrado river!

[hhEb09'1]

KAIBAB PLATEAU in northern Arizona its elevation of 9,241ft, (2,817m) above sea level.
or POINT IMPERIAL at 8803' it overlooks the desert of the east of the grand canyon the highest point of the grand canyon is 6600' above the Colrado river!But, the question is, what is the gradient?

[crosscountry]

I have found an answer that I'll accept. If anyone gets this answer or one that beats it they win.


hint? mountain near a plane.

[hhEb09'1]

Is the gradient greater than 90%?

[crosscountry]

not near

[hhEb09'1]

Doesn't Half Dome beat it then?

[crosscountry]

not bad. Half dome IIRC is actually the top of a mountain and not level with anything else.



The one I'm thinking of goes higher within a 1 mile radius.

[Eroica]

Is it in the Indian Ocean?

[crosscountry]

no, but if you find one with a larger gradient you win.

[hhEb09'1]

The one I'm thinking of goes higher within a 1 mile radius.So the gradient is greater than 90%?

PS: maybe I don't understand your objection to Half Dome. Could you explain that some more? ths

[crosscountry]

sure. half dome does the rising over a very small lateral distance. it is not the gradient I am looking for, but one over a mile distance.

There are places on earth that rise higher than half dome, but they take a little sideways motion.


The question as stated is


where on earth is the highest gradient within one mile.

in other words, where is the places of greatest elevation change within one mile.

if half dome was within 1 mile of a higher peak then that higher peak would actually be closer to correct than half dome.

[hhEb09'1]

sure. half dome does the rising over a very small lateral distance. No, I computed that 89.7% by assuming that we were starting a mile away from Half Dome. If we were to start at the "bottom" of Half Dome, the gradient would be in the thousands of percent maybe.

PS: I found this online map of Yosemite (http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/upload/yosevalley2008.pdf). It looks to me that Mirror Lake at 4098 feet elevation is almost exactly a mile (lateral distance) from the summit of Half Dome at 8836 feet elevation. That's (8836-4098)/5280, or 89.73% grade.

None of the elevations listed on that map are higher than Half Dome.

[crosscountry]

Here is a grade calculator
http://www.csgnetwork.com/inclinedeclinegradecalc.html




so, you're saying that you cannot find any place on earth that rises more than 4800 feet within one mile?


doesn't the grand canyon beat it at a mile deep?

[hhEb09'1]

so, you're saying that you cannot find any place on earth that rises more than 4800 feet within one mile?When you said "not near" I thought you meant that the place that you're thinking of had not near as much as 90% grade.

It's more than that, and underwater?

doesn't the grand canyon beat it at a mile deep?I don't know. At Grand Canyon village (cite (http://www.nps.gov/grca/faqs.htm#big)) where it is nearly a mile deep, it is 10 miles wide. So, on average it's not, but it could be greater than 90%, depending, but I haven't found anything that supports a figure greater than that. There are lots deeper canyons in the world, but very few of them are even as steep as the Grand Canyon.

[Eroica]

Monterey Canyon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monterey_Canyon)?

[toejam]

C'mon guys, this is a pretty steep thread, don't leave it in mid-air! :)

[crosscountry]

wow, this place is cool

http://www.myfreesport.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=312&Itemid=60

not the answer though - but maybe right continent

[crosscountry]

Rakaposhi has a huge vertical climb.


and I found a skiing mountain that descends at a 60 degree incline. That's about 173% grade.

[geonuc]

Matterhorn?

[crosscountry]

now, I've done my research. You give me something to compare to.


link plus rise and run. thank you.

[geonuc]

now, I've done my research. You give me something to compare to.


link plus rise and run. thank you.

Damn. Didn't think this was a show-your-work quiz. :sad:

OK. I was just guessing with the Matterhorn 'cause it looks real steep.

According to this (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.tramsoft.ch/gps/screenshots/garmin/mapsource/schweiz/ch-topo-muerren_big.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.tramsoft.ch/gps/garmin_mapsource-ch_en.html&h=800&w=960&sz=335&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=KT0Gm-3fStCJqM:&tbnh=123&tbnw=148&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmatterhorn%2Bswiss%2Btopographic%2Bma p%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN) link, the Matterhorn has an elevation of 4478 m and the 3000.1 m iso line runs within 1.5 km. 1.5 km is a little less than a mile and the elevation change is about 4800 ft.

[hhEb09'1]

Rakaposhi has a huge vertical climb.Wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakaposhi), awesome!

However, the only rise/run info there is "Rakaposhi is notable for its exceptional rise over local terrain, almost unmatched in the world. For example, it rises 6000m in only 16.5km horizontal distance from the Hunza River." That's not even close to what we're looking for, although the photos make it look like it might, in places. It can be deceptive, I've been on many a mountain that looked nearly vertical, until you actually set foot on it.

and I found a skiing mountain that descends at a 60 degree incline. That's about 173% grade.
Yes, that's mentioned in the Mt. St. Elias link that you gave. It's not the highest peak in North America, but it rises up from sea level--still, it is ten miles from the sea. So, on average, not much grade overall. I haven't found documentation yet that that 60 degree slope continues for two miles. :)

Mt. Robson is a very good candidate on the same continent, with steep sides all around, and immense vertical: wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Robson). Robson Pass (http://www.peakfinder.com/passes.asp?passname=robson+pass) is 7532 feet below the peak (cite (http://www.peakfinder.com/peakfinder.ASP?PeakName=mount+robson): " Its enormous mass towers 7532 feet above the summit of the pass at such close range as to literally over-shadow it"), but even that is still 4 miles away (from Latitude 53:06:38 Longitude 119:09:21 to Latitude 53:10:00 Longitude 119:07:30 using the lat/lon distance calculator (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gccalc.shtml)).

Wait a minute, I thought you said it was underwater?

[hhEb09'1]

Damn. Didn't think this was a show-your-work quiz. :sad:Matterhorn was mentioned earlier (http://www.bautforum.com/fun-n-games/41107-all-new-geography-quiz-45.html#post1163868) :)

According to this (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.tramsoft.ch/gps/screenshots/garmin/mapsource/schweiz/ch-topo-muerren_big.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.tramsoft.ch/gps/garmin_mapsource-ch_en.html&h=800&w=960&sz=335&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=KT0Gm-3fStCJqM:&tbnh=123&tbnw=148&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmatterhorn%2Bswiss%2Btopographic%2Bma p%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN) link, the Matterhorn has an elevation of 4478 m and the 3000.1 m iso line runs within 1.5 km. 1.5 km is a little less than a mile and the elevation change is about 4800 ft.Hmmm, that's very close to the Half Dome calculation, although it appears to me that the 3000.1 line gets much closer than that, on the south. I might need to adjust my monitor, though. :)

[crosscountry]

Wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakaposhi), awesome! :)

However, the only rise/run info there is "Rakaposhi is notable for its exceptional rise over local terrain, almost unmatched in the world. For example, it rises 6000m in only 16.5km horizontal distance from the Hunza River." That's not even close to what we're looking for, although the photos make it look like it might, in places. It can be deceptive, I've been on many a mountain that looked nearly vertical, until you actually set foot on it.
Yes, that's mentioned in the Mt. St. Elias link that you gave. It's not the highest peak in North America, but it rises up from sea level--still, it is ten miles from the sea. So, on average, not much grade overall. I haven't found documentation yet that that 60 degree slope continues for 1.732 miles :)

Well, since we're only talking 1 mile laterally we can definitely eliminate most of that stretch and pick the part we want most. I have another in mind though. But maybe it can be shown to be the greatest.



Mt. Robson is a very good candidate on the same continent, with steep sides all around, and immense vertical: wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Robson). Robson Pass (http://www.peakfinder.com/passes.asp?passname=robson+pass) is 7532 feet below the peak (cite (http://www.peakfinder.com/peakfinder.ASP?PeakName=mount+robson): " Its enormous mass towers 7532 feet above the summit of the pass at such close range as to literally over-shadow it"), but even that is still 4 miles away (from Latitude 53:06:38 Longitude 119:09:21 to Latitude 53:10:00 Longitude 119:07:30 using the lat/lon distance calculator (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gccalc.shtml)).


Wait a minute, I thought you said it was underwater?

I've done some more research since then.

[geonuc]

Matterhorn was mentioned earlier :)

It was? I searched and came up empty. :confused:

Yes, the 3000.1 line does get closer, but I didn't measure it precisely.

[hhEb09'1]

It was? I searched and came up empty. :confused:
And I accidentally left the link to the post empty! sorry, here it is (http://www.bautforum.com/fun-n-games/41107-all-new-geography-quiz-45.html#post1163868), and I've fixed my previous post.

The Harakiri Slope (http://www.tiscover.at/at/guide/5,en,SCH1/objectId,RGN866401at,curr,EUR,season,at2,selectedE ntry,pict/pict.html) in Austria is advertised as 78 degrees, but it probably doesn't run on for long.

I checked out Chaltén (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerro_Chalt%C3%A9n) (Fitz Roy), too, because of its awesome verticality (and Lizard Head, in Colorado), but I can't find any evidence of long payouts (map (http://climb.mountainzone.com/2001/patagonia/html/map-fitzroy.html)) Laguna Sucia is 3 km away.

[geonuc]

And I accidentally left the link to the post empty! sorry, here it is (http://www.bautforum.com/fun-n-games/41107-all-new-geography-quiz-45.html#post1163868), and I've fixed my previous post.

Ah, maybe that explains it - I don't think the search feature will find words inside the hyperlink code.

[geonuc]

So will someone please come up with the correct answer? I want to know what it is.

[hhEb09'1]

Mt. Robson is a very good candidate on the same continent, with steep sides all around, and immense vertical: wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Robson). Robson Pass (http://www.peakfinder.com/passes.asp?passname=robson+pass) is 7532 feet below the peak (cite (http://www.peakfinder.com/peakfinder.ASP?PeakName=mount+robson): " Its enormous mass towers 7532 feet above the summit of the pass at such close range as to literally over-shadow it"), but even that is still 4 miles away (from Latitude 53:06:38 Longitude 119:09:21 to Latitude 53:10:00 Longitude 119:07:30 using the lat/lon distance calculator (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gccalc.shtml)).
Pursuing this further, from this map (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Mount+Robson+british+columbia&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=53.101858,-119.150162&spn=0.097911,0.209084&z=12), and the comment in that wiki article: "Mount Robson boasts great vertical relief over the local terrain. From Berg Lake the mountain rises 2300 metres (7500 feet) to the summit," it looks like the summit of Mount Robson is 1 2/3 miles from Berg Lake. Since the terrain around the lake is probably not as steep as near the summit, I would think that the gradient from the summit down is over 100%, for over a mile lateral distance.

[crosscountry]

http://www.mountain.ru/world_mounts/himalayas/2003/Fauler_Ramsden/Siguniang_MikeFowler_hr.jpg

[crosscountry]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Mount_Logan.jpg


I am pretty sure both of these beat 100%

[crosscountry]

http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/upload/487937-NorthFace.jpg

and this one ascends 9000 feet supposedly between 60 and 80 degrees



we may have a winner if someone can tell me what mountain and face that is.

[geonuc]

OK, it's Mt. Siguniang? The tallest of the four sisters in Sichuan province?

[hhEb09'1]

I am pretty sure both of these beat 100%what is the rise and run?

and this one ascends 9000 feet supposedly between 60 and 80 degreesI just found this wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devils_Thumb) comment: "The most famous feature on the Devils Thumb is its unclimbed Northwest Face, which rises 6,700 feet from the Witches Cauldron at its base to the summit, at an average angle of 67 degrees. This is unparalleled steepness for a face this size in North America."

[crosscountry]

what is the rise and run?I just found this wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devils_Thumb) comment: "The most famous feature on the Devils Thumb is its unclimbed Northwest Face, which rises 6,700 feet from the Witches Cauldron at its base to the summit, at an average angle of 67 degrees. This is unparalleled steepness for a face this size in North America."


you figure rise and run. tan(theta)=rise/run


The Devil's Thumb sounds good, but where is the 1 mile mark? It should be more than 6700 feet below the top.

God work guys!

[hhEb09'1]

What mountains are in the two pictures?

[crosscountry]

we may have a winner if someone can tell me what mountain and face that is.

quote

[geonuc]

What mountains are in the two pictures?

There are three mountains pictured by crosscountry. The first is Siguniang, the second Mt Logan. Don't know the third, but I guess that's the answer to ths never-ending quiz.

[crosscountry]

There are three mountains pictured by crosscountry. The first is Siguniang, the second Mt Logan. Don't know the third, but I guess that's the answer to ths never-ending quiz.

it is, or there is another I will accept. After speaking with a Geologist last night he gave me another place.

[crosscountry]

come on, you guys are so close!

that photo I found on an ice climbing website. check the image properties for the link.

[chrissy]

found one! mount McKinley its 20320ft/6194m its steep unbroken south slope rises 17,000ft in 12 miles its vertical rise is greater than mount.Everest making it the steepest mountain in the world! oh and it's in Alaska.

[crosscountry]

The one I am looking for rises 9000 feet in 1 mile.

there is a second answer I'll accept because a glaciologist told me it was steeper although I cannot find the data to support that.

[chrissy]

matterhorn in switzerland?

[hhEb09'1]

Already looked at cascadeclimbers.com, but couldn't find the text :)

PS: I did find a book with the interesting title, The Steepest Mountain, by Lloyd E. Warburton, apparently about the "first ascent of Nevada Cayesh, a very severe ice pinnacle in the Cordillera Blanca, Peru." (cite (http://books.google.com/books?id=tai_nm7se8gC&dq=%2B%22Warburton%22%2B%22cayesh%22&source=gbs_summary_s&cad=0))

Pictures of Nevado Cayesh are awesome, but few.

[crosscountry]

Already looked at cascadeclimbers.com, but couldn't find the text :)



it was posted by a guy named JoJo. although a search won't come up with anything.

[hhEb09'1]

it was posted by a guy named JoJo. although a search won't come up with anything.But his profile will :)

This thread (http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/469467/fpart/2) details his climb of a face of MacArthur, but the first post on that page (2) by Don_Serl says that his maps show it to be only 6000 feet, rather than 9000.

[geonuc]

come on, you guys are so close!

that photo I found on an ice climbing website. check the image properties for the link.

That's how I identified the other two mountains you pictured. But that site has a bazillion photos and your link doesn't identify that third mountain.

Chrissy, Matterhorn has been suggested twice (once by me just recently) and McKinley has been as well.

[hhEb09'1]

But that site has a bazillion photos and your link doesn't identify that third mountain.It's identified in the thread as MacArthur

[crosscountry]

But his profile will :)

This thread (http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/469467/fpart/2) details his climb of a face of MacArthur, but the first post on that page (2) by Don_Serl says that his maps show it to be only 6000 feet, rather than 9000.

you win.


JoJo said " we brushed off our grade school geometry and figured the actual length of the climbing to be close to 9,000 feet"


I'll trust the man on the mountain.


The other acceptable answer was Nanga parbat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanga_Parbat) A geologist friend suggested it was the longest steep slope on earth.


Finally, a rest. Your turn hhEb:clap:

[hhEb09'1]

you win.Very interesting and entertaining question

JoJo said " we brushed off our grade school geometry and figured the actual length of the climbing to be close to 9,000 feet"I don't know what he means by geometry, but it looks like he just says "Bottom line, it was somewhere between 45 and 50 sixty meter rope lengths" and translates that into feet. 45 x 60 x 3.28 is 8900 feet. That might be stretching things a bit
I'll trust the man on the mountain.I've been on the mountain with a few of them, and I wouldn't trust any of them. :)

Surveyors, and mapmakers, are usually rock solid.
The other acceptable answer was Nanga parbat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanga_Parbat) A geologist friend suggested it was the longest steep slope on earth.Thirty years ago, I read Hermann Buhl's account of his climb of Nanga Parbat, the first ascent, solo without oxygen, and he spent the night just below the summit standing up, without his pack, in the "death zone". 31 people had died trying, before him. Incredible mountain. I'll have to look into it.

This website (http://www.peaklist.org/spire/lists/world-25.html) ranks mountains by a made-up statistic called spire measure that is supposed to represent the impressiveness of standing on its peak. Nanga Parbat is number one.

This topo map (http://www.see.leeds.ac.uk/structure/virtualfield/map1.htm) seems to show the peak of Nanga Parbat (>8km) about 5 km from the 4km elevation, on the steep southeast peak side. Not quite 100%, but there could be segments that qualify. :)


Finally, a rest. Your turn hhEb:clap:Let's see, what is the westernmost point of continental Europe?

[geonuc]

Cape Roca, Portugal?

[hhEb09'1]

Your turn! and hurry :)

[geonuc]

Your turn! and hurry :)

Yes, sir! :)

Multi-part question:

Name the largest freshwater lake in the world. Give two correct answers.

Then tell me why some people say one of those 'correct' answers is, in fact, incorrect.

[hhEb09'1]

Lake Baikal is the largest by volume of water, Lake Superior is the largest by surface area. Offhand, I would go by their picture on a map, but that's just me.

[geonuc]

Correct so far. And as to the second part of the question?

[hhEb09'1]

Because Lake Michigan and Lake Huron might be considered a single, larger, lake?

[geonuc]

Correct!

L. Michigan and L. Huron are separated by the Straits of Mackinac and are at the same elevation, thus making them one continuous lake. Or so say some.

[hhEb09'1]

Cool. While researching that, I found reference to the largest island in a lake on an island in a lake. Then, I found the largest island in a lake on an island in a lake on an island. What are they?

[chrissy]

think i have done this one but the answer for the largest island in a lake on an island is : Manitoulin Island in Canada/ Lake Huron the translation of the island means spirit island!

[hhEb09'1]

I thought it sounded familiar (http://www.bautforum.com/fun-n-games/41107-all-new-geography-quiz-41.html#post1104370)! O well, then the second part is the real question :)

[toejam]

Largest lake on an island in a lake on an island is:

Crater Lake on Vulcano Island, in Lake Taal on Luzon Island

---------------------------------

LARGEST ISLAND IN A LAKE ON AN ISLAND IN A LAKE ON AN ISLAND IS:

Vulcan Point in Crater Lake, on Vulcano Island in Lake Taal, on Luzon Island in the Philipines

[hhEb09'1]

Correct, and two bonus points for extra answer.

[toejam]

:)

Name the longest beach in the world.

[Sean Clayden]

Praia do Cassino 240km

[toejam]

Praia do Cassino 240km


Correct, but 254 km. :) In Brasil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praia_do_Cassino

Your turn to ask.

[Sean Clayden]

Whats 14km between friends.....


What is the remotest point on earth from land ?

[crosscountry]

Hawaii?

or are you asking in water?

[Sean Clayden]

Land mass furthest from other land mass......

[crosscountry]

and Hawaii was wrong?

[crosscountry]

The most remote island is Bouvet Island, an uninhabited and small Norwegian island in the South Atlantic Ocean. It lies at coordinates [show location on an interactive map] 54°26′S, 3°24′E. The nearest land is the uninhabited Queen Maud Land, Antarctica, over 1,600 km (994 mi) away to the south. The nearest inhabited land are Tristan da Cunha, 2,260 km (1,404 mi) away and South Africa, 2,580 km (1,603 mi) away.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_points_of_the_World

[crosscountry]

come on, my next question won't be nearly as hard. I haven't even thought of one yet.

[crosscountry]

on a side note, where do I go to vote? (not part of the quiz, just for my own info)

[crosscountry]

I guess he's gone.


Anyone want to guess where I voted today? Kinda vague huh.


how about...

Where was this picture taken?

http://photos.crosscountryadventures.us/albums/BestPhotos/Bestphotos07/photos07done/DSC02852.jpg

[Sean Clayden]

Apologise, been offline, question incorrect, area in ocean not land mass, furthest from land fall ?

But, your photo is nice. Is it in South America ?

[geonuc]

crosscountry's Wiki link provides that answer as well. I won't spell it out it because I don't have a counter question and crosscountry has already provided an intriguing new question.

[chrissy]

crosscountry's Wiki link provides that answer as well. I won't spell it out it because I don't have a counter question and crosscountry has already provided an intriguing new question.

then it must be the Pasific pole of inaccessibility (also called Point Nemo) the point in the ocean farthest from any land, lies in the south Pacific ocean at 48
degrees52.6's , 123 degrees 23.6'w which is approx 2,688km (1,670mi) from the nearest land.

[hhEb09'1]

or are you asking in water?
Land mass furthest from other land mass......
Apologise, been offline, question incorrect, area in ocean not land mass, furthest from land fall ?Just to clarify, are you changing the question? Or, is the answer incorrect?

[chrissy]

What is the remotest point on earth from land ?

this was the origional question!
and then a clue was given, furthest land mass away from a land mass!

[crosscountry]

Just to clarify, are you changing the question? Or, is the answer incorrect?

exactly. those were different questions. I went with the most specific he asked - remotest land from land.

[Eroica]

Where was this picture taken?

http://photos.crosscountryadventures.us/albums/BestPhotos/Bestphotos07/photos07done/DSC02852.jpg
Alhambra, Granada, in Spain.

[crosscountry]

Alhambra, Granada, in Spain.

you darn Europeans!!! I can't get away with an out of country question...



There is another temple like that in Seville, Spain that has similar features. I had forgotten for a moment which one it was.

[Sean Clayden]

OK, carry on. My apologies, will be more specific conscientious next time.

[Sean Clayden]

Original question should have been, what is the name of the location (not land mass) in the ocean furthest from landfall ?

[Sean Clayden]

then it must be the Pasific pole of inaccessibility (also called Point Nemo) the point in the ocean farthest from any land, lies in the south Pacific ocean at 48
degrees52.6's , 123 degrees 23.6'w which is approx 2,688km (1,670mi) from the nearest land.


Correct...............

[chrissy]

thanks for that I will let Eroica go before me only being fair when the Q and A were being sorted out, if thats ok with you guys?

[Eroica]

thanks for that I will let Eroica go before me only being fair when the Q and A were being sorted out, if thats ok with you guys?Thanks, but you might live to regret that decision...

What country has the greatest number of impact craters per unit area?

[Maksutov]

Thanks, but you might live to regret that decision...

What country has the greatest number of impact craters per unit area?Well, let's see. It's probably a small country. That means Europe. I know there are a number of impact craters in the Baltic states, so I'm going to go with Estonia.

[hhEb09'1]

Carolina Bays country? :)

[Eroica]

... I'm going to go with Estonia.
:clap: That's the country I was thinking of.

I'm not sure what the correct answer is. According to the Impact Database, there are four in Estonia. That's 4/45,226 km2 = 8.8x10-5.

Finland has 10/338,145 km2 = 2.96x10-5, which is smaller.

Any advance on Estonia?

Impact Database (http://www.unb.ca/passc/ImpactDatabase/europe.html)

[Eroica]

Carolina Bays country? :)According to the database, there's only one impact crater in that region (Chesapeake Bay)!

[hhEb09'1]

Carolina Bays (http://www.uwsp.edu/geo/projects/geoweb/participants/dutch/VTrips/CarolinaBays.HTM) pseudo-impacts :)

If you counted all thousands of them, the US would end up the winner! :)

2000/9826630 = 2 x 10-4

[Maksutov]

:clap: That's the country I was thinking of.

I'm not sure what the correct answer is. According to the Impact Database, there are four in Estonia. That's 4/45,226 km2 = 8.8x10-5.

Finland has 10/338,145 km2 = 2.96x10-5, which is smaller.

Any advance on Estonia?

Impact Database (http://www.unb.ca/passc/ImpactDatabase/europe.html)Since a number of my ancestors come from that area, I was aware of that bit of info from a long time ago. Pretty sure Estonia uses it as part of promoting tourism.

For the next geological question, I will defer to chrissy, who's due a go at this.

[Sean Clayden]

If your talking square mileage, then australia has the most impact zones.

[Maksutov]

If your talking square mileage, then australia has the most impact zones.Eroica's question was

"What country has the greatest number of impact craters per unit area?"

In other words, which country has the greatest density of impact craters.

Australia has 26 impact craters (Thanks for the link, Eroica! Fascinating information.). It has an area of 7,741,220 km² or 2,988,888 sq mi, which is one impact crater every 297,739 km² or one impact crater every 114,957 sq mi.

Estonia has 4 impact craters. It has an area of 45,226 km² or 17,413 sq mi, which is one impact crater every 11306.5 km² or one impact crater every 4353 sq mi, a much higher density than Australia or apparently anywhere else.

[Sean Clayden]

Eroica's question was

"What country has the greatest number of impact craters per unit area?"

In other words, which country has the greatest density of impact craters.

Australia has 26 impact craters (Thanks for the link, Eroica! Fascinating information.). It has an area of 7,741,220 km² or 2,988,888 sq mi, which is one impact crater every 297,739 km² or one impact crater every 114,957 sq mi.

Estonia has 4 impact craters. It has an area of 45,226 km² or 17,413 sq mi, which is one impact crater every 11306.5 km² or one impact crater every 4353 sq mi, a much higher density than Australia or apparently anywhere else.


Made your point......................:clap::clap::clap:

[chrissy]

Thank you MAK


I better word this right to try and prevent fisty cuffs! :D

I want to make this a three parter ok!


1.Where and when did the DEADLIEST EARTHQUAKE occur?

2.How many PEOPLE died?

3.Where were they living in to make it more dangerous?

[toejam]

1. TANGSHAN in NE CHina 3.42 AM July 28th 1976

2. Over 240,000 dead

3. In buildings not designed to withstand quakes, as this was not considered to be a quake zone. BTW over 160,000 other people were injured

[chrissy]

1. No
2. No
3. No

[toejam]

yes, yes yes


http://history1900s.about.com/od/horribledisasters/a/tangshan.htm

OK you probably mean Sanshi China 1556 January 880,000 killed but can you trust those figures, even in civilised China in those days?

[JMV]

1. 1556 Shaanxi earthquake

2. 830,000

3. Artificial caves

[toejam]

Confession: I Googled it

Guess JMV's answer is fuller. But I question the statistics of those days.

[JMV]

Confession: I Googled it
What do you think I did? :p

[chrissy]

1. was a year later but I will let you have that one
2.yes.
3.HMMMMM! more info from that please!

[JMV]

1. was a year later but I will let you have that oneWikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1556_Shaanxi_earthquake) says January 23rd 1556.


3.HMMMMM! more info from that please!
The caves, called yaodongs, were dug into sides of soft soil hills or cliffs in Loess Plateau. Much of the local population lived in these caves. The earthquake caused landslides that destroyed the caves.

[chrissy]

correct your go JMV

[JMV]

Thanks.

1. What impact crater was found in the early 1980's under a major estuary entrance?

2. When was the crater formed?

[chrissy]

1. A 55 mile wide crater caused by a comet or meteorite. In Chesapeake Bay.

2. Around 35 million years ago !

[JMV]

That is correct. Your turn.

[chrissy]

can I defer my question to MAK as he is due his question as he answered one right on link 1448 ?
As I have to go now!
sorry.

[JMV]

By all means.

[chrissy]

thanks I have informed him so when he comes on line he will pose a question!

[Maksutov]

can I defer my question to MAK as he is due his question as he answered one right on link 1448 ?
As I have to go now!
sorry.Thank you for your courtesy.

This natural formation was first documented by surveyors in 1805 and collapsed in 2003.

[hhEb09'1]

That would be the Old Man of the Mountain! I never saw it, but I had the stamp, fifty years ago or so

[chrissy]

Damn you beat me to it! I have a photo of it before it collapsed!

[Maksutov]

That would be the Old Man of the Mountain! I never saw it, but I had the stamp, fifty years ago or soSaw it in person many times. Never hiked over to it though, in the belief that folks tramping on top of it would hasten its demise.

I sometimes would hike along the road through the notch near Profile Lake just to watch the formation appear and disappear as one moved north or south.

Over to you, hhEb09'1!

[Maksutov]

Damn you beat me to it! I have a photo of it before it collapsed!Oh well, almost, timing-wise! Photos of The Old Man are great, but there was nothing like the experience of seeing it with your own eyes the first time.

[chrissy]

Oh well, almost, timing-wise! Photos of The Old Man are great, but there was nothing like the experience of seeing it with your own eyes the first time.

:D true!

[hhEb09'1]

Which state(s) of the United States have no straight line as part of their border?

[geonuc]

Hawaii immediately comes to mind. Not sure about the other 49.

[Jay200MPH]

I'm going to guess Hawaii, Rhode Island, and Puerto Rico.

- J

[farmerjumperdon]

Depends on the surface you use to draw or interpret the boundaries. On a topographic globe - none of the boundaries are lines. Just lots of connected curves.

As most people think of them - the answer is Hawaii. (Off the top of my head).

[hhEb09'1]

Hawaii immediately comes to mind. Not sure about the other 49.According to my source, that's the only answer. So, you're up! :)

I'm going to guess Hawaii, Rhode Island, and Puerto Rico.Nice try! :)

Rhode Island isn't an island, though, and Puerto Rico isn't a state.

PS:
Depends on the surface you use to draw or interpret the boundaries. On a topographic globe - none of the boundaries are lines. Just lots of connected curves.Wouldn't the boundaries also have depth, really?


As most people think of them - the answer is Hawaii. (Off the top of my head).That's what I was going for :)

[geonuc]

My employer is bothering me too much today, so I haven't the time to think of a good, non-Googlable quiz. But here's an easy one:

Where might you find the world's oldest living tree?

[Jay200MPH]

The Namib desert?

- J

[geonuc]

No, sorry. Namib desert is not what I'm looking for.

[crosscountry]

California. Methuselah Pine

http://www.sonic.net/bristlecone/

very cool tree.

[geonuc]

I'll give it to you.

Methuselah is a bristlecone pine considered to be 4600 years old (cc's link says a bit more). It lives, with its many kin, on the high slopes of the White-Inyo mountains just east of Owens Valley in California near the Nevada border.

I've been there twice and these trees are very cool. Methuselah itself is not identified (for its protection) but there are many obviously ancient trees you can see. And if you visit, perhaps you will see Methuselah. You just won't know if you did.

[crosscountry]

What is the oldest tree in Texas?

[Sean Clayden]

A coastal live oak located near Fulton is the oldest tree in the state. The tree has an estimated age of more than 1,500 years.

[crosscountry]

your turn:clap:

[Sean Clayden]

Deepest "point" on earth below sea level ?

[Jay200MPH]

Somewhere in the Marianis Trench?

- J

[Sean Clayden]

Yes.......But what is the point called ?

[hhEb09'1]

Challenger Deep

[Sean Clayden]

Correct,,,your go.

[hhEb09'1]

How many people have visited the Challenger Deep?

[Sean Clayden]

How many people have visited the Challenger Deep?

3

On 23 January 1960, Jacques Piccard (who co-designed the submersible along with his father, Auguste Piccard) and USN Lieutenant Don Walsh.

All unmanned craft since.......

[hhEb09'1]

3I don't think so...
On 23 January 1960, Jacques Piccard (who co-designed the submersible along with his father, Auguste Piccard) and USN Lieutenant Don Walsh.

All unmanned craft since.......OK...
:)

[Sean Clayden]

Missions or total people on the manned dives ?

[hhEb09'1]

Total different individuals

[Sean Clayden]

There have only been two people at the bottom of Challenger deep.

On January 23, 1960, Trieste reached the ocean floor in the Challenger Deep (the deepest southern part of the Mariana Trench), carrying Jacques Piccard (son of Auguste) and Lieutenant Don Walsh, USN. This was the first time a vessel, manned or unmanned, had reached the deepest point in the Earth's oceans. The onboard systems indicated a depth of 11 521 m (37,800 ft), although this was later revised to 10 916 m (35,813 ft), and more accurate measurements made in 1995 have found the Challenger Deep to be slightly shallower, at 10 911 m (35,798 ft).

[hhEb09'1]

There have only been two people at the bottom of Challenger deep.I know it was a technicality, but I wanted to make sure you could count :)

Your turn!

[Sean Clayden]

I know it was a technicality, but I wanted to make sure you could count :)

Your turn!

Which city in the world has the highest population density ?

[Jay200MPH]

Hong Kong.

- J

[Sean Clayden]

No....... Population per density..... people/km²

[hhEb09'1]

Tokyo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo) is listed at 5796/km2, whereas Calcutta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcutta) lists 9920/km2 and Mexico City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_City) 5741/km2. So maybe Calcutta, but I can't vouch for the accuracy though. BTW, Hong Kong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong) is listed as 6352/km2, and points to a list of country densities (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_density) that has Monaco at the top, with a density of 23660/km2. So, Monaco?