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banquo's_bumble_puppy
2005-Nov-01, 11:56 AM
It is the year 2364 and war/hunger/poverty/disease have been eliminated. Machines do all the work. The environment/biosphere has been restored to pristine condition. Humans have colonized/terraformed all of the major planets and moons in the Sol system. It is a perfect world in which people can virtually live forever....

would you like to live in such a world?

Argos
2005-Nov-01, 12:17 PM
Yes, for sure. :)

jkmccrann
2005-Nov-01, 12:21 PM
It is the year 2364 and war/hunger/poverty/disease have been eliminated. Machines do all the work. The environment/biosphere has been restored to pristine condition. Humans have colonized/terraformed all of the major planets and moons in the Sol system. It is a perfect world in which people can virtually live forever....

would you like to live in such a world?

I suppose the galaxy remains untamed, so there is still work to do...........

banquo's_bumble_puppy
2005-Nov-01, 12:21 PM
somehow...I managed to triple post this...whoops

jkmccrann
2005-Nov-01, 12:24 PM
somehow...I managed to triple post this...whoops

Not to worry, I would refer to that as `speeding towards the millennium point`

Moose
2005-Nov-01, 01:03 PM
Hmm. I think I'd get myself a sizable (spacefaring) yacht and spend my retirement exploring the nooks and crannies of the galaxy.

ToSeek
2005-Nov-01, 03:47 PM
And the chicks dig really nerdy guys....

kashi
2005-Nov-01, 03:51 PM
Someone's been watching too much Star Trek...

Philip A
2005-Nov-01, 07:14 PM
(Moved from other post of same name)

I like chaos, and don't want to live forever, so 'no'.

I would like a lot of the things described - clean environment, living in space, food for all; but at what cost? Perfection as described would lead to stasis where there is no impetus to invent or move forward. Mankinds greatest innovations have come about from need.

And if we're immortal, what would we do about population growth? Or has a solution to that issue been found pre-2364?

Demigrog
2005-Nov-01, 08:48 PM
Sure, I'd live there; I'd conquer it inside a week. Anybody seen Demolition Man?

Josh
2005-Nov-01, 09:06 PM
There's no such thing as "too much Star Trek"!!

When you say Utopia and then describe it, are we bound by that meaning? Utopia by defnition can't exist - it means "no place" - and every person's idea of utopia would change. If you're asking me if i would like to live in my own utopia then definitely. I think everyone has to answer yes. If you don't want to live for ever and like chaos then that would be your utopia.

Anyway... me = yes.

SolusLupus
2005-Nov-01, 09:31 PM
"Demolition Man" was silly. In a couple generations, all of society was turned into a Utopia. That makes me smirk even today. Finding Utopia, and having such incredible social change as to change every single little thing that anyone - rich or poor - enjoyed or thought within a few decades was just darn silly.

Personally, I think that population problems aren't such a big problem when we start to occupy other worlds, and thus, I don't mind the idea of immortality.

I like the idea of being immortal, personally - and not because I'm scared of death. Naturally, I don't really want to die, but I also want to live, and to have that life mean something. The longer I live, the more of a chance I have to have it mean something, the more change I can cause, the more novels I can write, the more games I can see, the more friends I can make, the more messageboards I can find, the more things I can learn, the more things I can teach, etc. etc.

Samara
2005-Nov-01, 09:41 PM
I dunno...I'd like to live a long time, but to be immortal? It seems it would get boring after a while.

SolusLupus
2005-Nov-01, 09:45 PM
I dunno...I'd like to live a long time, but to be immortal? It seems it would get boring after a while.

I constantly hear this, but I really don't understand it personally. I would never get bored! If I started to feel like I needed a change, I would go travelling. If hiking through the wilderness gets boring, then I would travel to other worlds. I would volunteer for risky missions that people know that I have experience on, because if I was really bored, I'd probably attempt to gain that experience.

Would I really do that? Well, probably not. But I certainly wouldn't give up my online status. I would obtain all the latest of online gaming, and if I got bored of games, I'd make my own and enjoy those. I'd explore new worlds with RPGs. I'd do what I love, and when I get bored of it, I'd love something else.

I could never get bored, personally. Believe me, I'd ALWAYS get something to do.

Samara
2005-Nov-01, 09:55 PM
Well, that's true I must admit. But a thing that always bothered me about immortality is what age would you remain at?

Monique
2005-Nov-01, 11:09 PM
And the chicks dig really nerdy guys....
hmmmm is important to you?? ;)

I would like. I do not agree with immortality. I believe death necessary to appreciate life.

Gillianren
2005-Nov-02, 12:58 AM
I think you could easily do everything you'd always dreamed of doing in just a few hundred years. (Heck, that might even be enough time to get through my reading list!) And given that I have days where I'm not particularly looking forward to tomorrow, I can't imagine living even a few hundred years.

SolusLupus
2005-Nov-02, 01:10 AM
Still, I personally wouldn't mind being immortal, and I'd always have something to do. You can be mortal all you like, but I wouldn't want your desires and ideas of what is "right" and what is "wrong" impunged upon myself. One problem with Utopia, I suppose.

As for what age you remain at, you have to remember that this is assuming Ultratech. If you have a way to keep cells regenerated to the point where you can live forever, then it should easily be possible to reverse any of the devestation that age causes.

Candy
2005-Nov-02, 01:40 AM
I'd love it. I certainly wouldn't spend it with the same man, though. I would travel the world many times. I would travel into space. I would just love it.

SolusLupus
2005-Nov-02, 01:50 AM
I wouldn't mind spending eternity with a single woman, if she was interesting enough. Though we both would probably go through several changes to be interesting enough. I certainly would change my body around a lot, personally, and try different things. :)

I have an image of my idealized self, personally. Two tentacles from my back is one major feature. Tentacles with nice, soft, black fur with individual moving follicles to help enhance grip.