Amazing Similarities between Luke Skywalker and Joe Dirt

[toolazytotypemyname]

Both have bad '70s haircuts.

Both were abandoned as children in the desert.

Both have trouble after finding a meteorite.

Christopher Walken audtioned for the part of Han Solo, who helps Luke. Christopher Walken plays the janitor that helps Joe Dirt.

Luke is thrown into a deep dark pit by Jabba the Hutt. Joe Dirt is thrown into a deep dark pit by Buffalo Bob.

Both meet an old wiseman with a speech impediment in swampy places (Dagobah, Louisiana).

And of course, the number one similarity: both are sexually attracted to their sister.

[Gullible Jones]

And of course, the number one similarity: both are sexually attracted to their sister.

That's one thing about Luke that I definitely don't remember... :o

[The Supreme Canuck]

Well, he didn't know she was his sister at first. When he found out... they put an end to that pretty quickly.

I want to know when he found a meteorite, though.

[toolazytotypemyname]

ok,ok. so I took a little liberty with that last one. When Luke found out, that was the end of it. Joe was just the opposite.

As for the meteorite,
I guess I should have said that both got in trouble with what they thought was a meteorite. In Luke's case, it turned out to be the probe droid, and then right after he got hit by the abominable snowman thing that I'm not quite enough of a nerd to remember the name of.

[Count Zero]

And of course, the number one similarity: both are sexually attracted to their sister.

That's one thing about Luke that I definitely don't remember... :o

Are you kidding?! He was smitten from the very first moment he saw her message - the one that R2D2 inadvertantly showed him a clip of. Also, note his reaction when he first sees her in person aboard the Death Star. And then, of course, she totally made his day with that big smooch she laid on him in Empire, when he was recuperating in the infirmary.

I alway thought that the scene between Luke & Obi Wan on Dagobah (in Return of the Jedi) should have gone slightly differently:

LUKE: I can't kill my own father!
OBI WAN: Then the Emperor has already won. You were our last hope.
LUKE: Yoda spoke of another.
OBI WAN: The "other" he spoke of was your twin sister.
LUKE: But I have no sister.
OBI WAN: She was separated from you at birth. Yoda knew, as the Emperor did, that if Anakin were to have any children, they would be a threat to him. That is why your sister remains safely anonymous.
LUKE: Leia! Leia is my sister! (pause, realization) Oh God! AKKK!!! Ptui! PTUI!! Oh! (leaps to his feet, spitting & retching...)

[Count Zero]

I was struck by the similarity between Luke Skywalker and Jar-Jar Binks.
Consider: They are both bumkins in trouble, out wandering in the wilderness when they meet a Jedi master. Together, they flee the planet. Eventually, the Jedi gets killed, and Jar-Jar joins a rebellion and quickly finds himself leading troops in battle. In the end, he is personally decorated by royalty.

[A Thousand Pardons]

I was struck by the similarity between Luke Skywalker and Jar-Jar Binks.
Consider: They are both bumkins in trouble, out wandering in the wilderness when they meet a Jedi master. Together, they flee the planet. Eventually, the Jedi gets killed, and Jar-Jar joins a rebellion and quickly finds himself leading troops in battle. In the end, he is personally decorated by royalty.
Wery perceptive, Count Zero. And George Lucas used a form of his own name for both: "Luke" is obvious, and "Jar-Jar" was a babytalk form of George when he was a kid. Obviously, he intended them to be the ying and yang of his own identity. Did Jar-Jar have an incest problem too?

[Count Zero]

Did Jar-Jar have an incest problem too?

Actually, I think it was his parents who had the incest problem...

[The Supreme Canuck]

Well, he did get kicked out of his city for something. And clumsiness really wouldn't do it...

[hewhocaves]

I alway thought that the scene between Luke & Obi Wan on Dagobah (in Return of the Jedi) should have gone slightly differently:

LUKE: I can't kill my own father!
OBI WAN: Then the Emperor has already won. You were our last hope.
LUKE: Yoda spoke of another.
OBI WAN: The "other" he spoke of was your twin sister.
LUKE: But I have no sister.
OBI WAN: She was separated from you at birth. Yoda knew, as the Emperor did, that if Anakin were to have any children, they would be a threat to him. That is why your sister remains safely anonymous.
LUKE: Leia! Leia is my sister! (pause, realization) Oh God! AKKK!!! Ptui! PTUI!! Oh! (leaps to his feet, spitting & retching...)

yeah, none of my firends can watch the kissing scene on Hoth without chiming in "incest is best".

and remember, leia kisses luck in SW as they do that swing in the death Star.

I was actually talkign about this with my g/f after the movie on friday. (she's not a big SW fan and barely remembers the OT) The feel of star wars and empire dramatically change when you get to Jedi. Which is a massive shame because it's the triangle between luke and leia and han that drives a lot of the first couple of movies. I mean, it's fairly obvious just watching star wars that luke and han each have an equal chance at Leia. by the time Jedi rolls around luke might as well be asexual. It's at that point, IMHO that Lucas decides to make the movie strictly for the 14 and under crowd, which explains a lot. Look at all the "romance" scenes between Anakin and Padme. They look like they're told from a nine year old's perspective! No, Lucas clearly made a subconscious decision to go for the youngest crowd possible and all it's merchandising and what not. Which really stinks because if he had gone the OTHER way, he a) would have had the opportunity to tell a much better story; b) would have gotten more merchandising out of the deal (think of how much money a fourty year old has compared to a twelve year old) and c) might have gotten the critical recognition the first trilogy never quite made.

John

[Jpax2003]

Well, he did get kicked out of his city for something. And clumsiness really wouldn't do it...IIRC, it had something to do with the Boss's "Boomdegasser," whatever that is.

[The Supreme Canuck]

Maybe it is best left unknown...

[A Thousand Pardons]

Which really stinks because if he had gone the OTHER way, he a) would have had the opportunity to tell a much better story;About time for some remakes!

b) would have gotten more merchandising out of the deal (think of how much money a fourty year old has compared to a twelve year old)
I know you're not serious.

and c) might have gotten the critical recognition the first trilogy never quite made.
Ditto. Has that ever been important?

[hewhocaves]

b) would have gotten more merchandising out of the deal (think of how much money a fourty year old has compared to a twelve year old)
I know you're not serious.

and c) might have gotten the critical recognition the first trilogy never quite made.
Ditto. Has that ever been important?

im only parlty kidding. adults buy a lot of, for lack of a better term, junk. plus, they can spend more per item than the younger genreation. Aaand, he still would have hooked the younger genreation because the adults would just buy it for their kids anyway. But I will admit to having given this WAY too much thought, lol.

What I probably should have said, though, was that Lucas shouldn't have alienated as much of the OT crowd by dumbing it down to a five year old level. But then Lucas amazingly never seemed to understnad his own creation from a creative point of view.

As for the critical recognition, I'm sure Lucas would always say that it's not important, but the only one that had any chance at "best picture" was Star Wars (and it was beaten out by Annie Hall or something). As i recall, it was a contender, though.

And from the interviews he's given, he doesn't strike me as a person who is content on just telling campfire stories. He wanted this to be like a "new mythology". So, yeah, I'd guess it grates on him at times.

John

[A Thousand Pardons]

And from the interviews he's given, he doesn't strike me as a person who is content on just telling campfire stories. He wanted this to be like a "new mythology". So, yeah, I'd guess it grates on him at times.
yeah, I was kidding too. You're right, why bring in Joseph Campbell if you're not going to make a serious myth? Maybe it's the new Hansel and Gretel.

[hewhocaves]

And from the interviews he's given, he doesn't strike me as a person who is content on just telling campfire stories. He wanted this to be like a "new mythology". So, yeah, I'd guess it grates on him at times.
yeah, I was kidding too. You're right, why bring in Joseph Campbell if you're not going to make a serious myth? Maybe it's the new Hansel and Gretel.

you're right. he started out telling the Iliad, but ended up with a Grimm's fairy tale.

[Darasen]

IO have not seen the new movie yet but will say I thought that Phantom Menace was a childerens movie.
I still do not believe the That;s what Lucas had planned all along" garbage Luke stopped lusting for Leia when Lucas decided to make them siblings.

[PhantomWolf]

Maybe it is best left unknown...

Actually he basically let all the animals out of the city zoo by accidently deactiving the cages during the opening ceromony which lead to panic, histeria and Boss Naga's favourite transport being eaten.

[Dan The Mediocre]

I alway thought that the scene between Luke & Obi Wan on Dagobah (in Return of the Jedi) should have gone slightly differently:

LUKE: I can't kill my own father!
OBI WAN: Then the Emperor has already won. You were our last hope.
LUKE: Yoda spoke of another.
OBI WAN: The "other" he spoke of was your twin sister.
LUKE: But I have no sister.
OBI WAN: She was separated from you at birth. Yoda knew, as the Emperor did, that if Anakin were to have any children, they would be a threat to him. That is why your sister remains safely anonymous.
LUKE: Leia! Leia is my sister! (pause, realization) Oh God! AKKK!!! Ptui! PTUI!! Oh! (leaps to his feet, spitting & retching...)

I feel as though the scene in Ace Ventura would be better. Watching Mark Hamil apply a plunger to his face would be hilarious.

[mickal555]

That was a kinda almost taboo subject lea lucke and there "relationship"

[hewhocaves]

while we're at it.. when the crawl started with the word "WAR!", who thought...

"Good God
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Say it again"

John

[AKONI]

Look at all the "romance" scenes between Anakin and Padme. They look like they're told from a nine year old's perspective!

I don't know if he actually did that on purpose. Mark Hamill gave an interview right after TPM came out, and said he sometimes he has to go up to Skywalker ranch and drag Lucas out because he never leaves the place and has very little social interaction with people outside of work.

By limiting his social contact with other people, Lucas may have actually retarded and then regressed his own understanding of human interaction.

[ZaphodBeeblebrox]

Look at all the "romance" scenes between Anakin and Padme. They look like they're told from a nine year old's perspective!

I don't know if he actually did that on purpose. Mark Hamill gave an interview right after TPM came out, and said he sometimes he has to go up to Skywalker ranch and drag Lucas out because he never leaves the place and has very little social interaction with people outside of work.

By limiting his social contact with other people, Lucas may have actually retarded and then regressed his own understanding of human interaction.

Well, he did go through a VERY Costly Divorce, a few years back ...

Maybe his Ex-Wife, felt the Same Way ...

Just a Hunch, anyway.

8-[

[hewhocaves]

Look at all the "romance" scenes between Anakin and Padme. They look like they're told from a nine year old's perspective!

I don't know if he actually did that on purpose. Mark Hamill gave an interview right after TPM came out, and said he sometimes he has to go up to Skywalker ranch and drag Lucas out because he never leaves the place and has very little social interaction with people outside of work.

By limiting his social contact with other people, Lucas may have actually retarded and then regressed his own understanding of human interaction.

along those lines, the first chapter of "Mythmaker" is particuarly illuminating when it comes to the changes that it's perceived Lucas has gone through. From the book, you get the impression that he's turned very Bill Gates-like. At the absolute very least, he's become redicuously self-important.

[um3k]

he never leaves the place and has very little social interaction with people outside of work.
Sounds like me! Except, replace "work" with "the internet."